Showing posts with label Joe Lieberman. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Joe Lieberman. Show all posts

Saturday, July 26, 2008

Holy Joe, Again. Someone Needs To Lock Him Up, For His Own Good


If God Has a problem with Iran, let God deal with it.


Lieberman at Hagee Conference: U.S. Should Attack Iran because God Hates Israel’s Enemies

Despite popular outcry from the American Jewish community, Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman pressed ahead with his third annual appearance at John Hagee's summit for Christians United For Israel (CUFI), an evangelical group with powerful fundraising capabilities and long-standing ties to DC insiders including President Bush. Over 42,000 petitioners called for Lieberman to renounce the controversial televangelist as Senator John McCain did this past May when it was discovered Hagee was selling DVDs which included a speech he made implying that the creation of Israel was the result of God's plan for Hitler to wipe out six million Jews. Although it is well-known the membership of CUFI adopts an apocalyptic theology calling for the annihilation of the Jewish race as a key part of the impending rapture, Lieberman's logic is unclear to many in the Jewish community who sincerely hope God will not exterminate them any time soon.


(That's not entirely accurate, if it is possible to be accurate about such nuttiness. The rapture happens before all of the roasting, toasting and poaching. That way the "raptured" can join Jesus in the good seats as the rest of us endure the tribulation, like fans at a football game, rooting for Satan to torture us all all do death, or is that Alberto Gonzales doing the torturing for Satan?




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Friday, July 25, 2008

Lieberman has Apparently Blown A Circuit


Lieberman Compares Hagee To Moses, Says Bloggers Would Have Attacked Him Too»

41176850.jpg Yesterday, Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT). spoke at the controversial pastor John Hagee’s Christians United For Israel Washington-Israel Summit. Lieberman’s close political ally, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), finally rejected Hagee’s endorsement in May. Lieberman, however, says he still has the utmost respect for the pastor, who once said that Hurricane Katrina was punishment to New Orleans for hosting a gay pride parade.


In his address last night, Lieberman used the “tone” of a biblical sermon. He blasted bloggers, reaffirmed his bond with Hagee, and compared the pastor to biblical figures. The Hartford Courant reports:


In response to what he termed the “pretty aggressive campaign,” Lieberman said in his speech, “The bond I feel with Pastor John Hagee and each and every one of you is much stronger than that and so I am proud to stand with you here tonight.”


Lieberman again drew a parallel between Hagee and biblical figures, this time saying biblical heroes, unlike the demigods of Greek mythology, “are humans — great humans, but with human failings.” Lieberman said that Moses had his shortcomings, too.


“Dear friends, I can only imagine what the bloggers of today would have had to say about Moses and Miriam.”


In justifying his decision to speak to Christians United, Lieberman claimed that Hagee has “expressed his regrets about each of the most controversial statements he has made.” In fact, though Hagee pledged “a greater level of compassion and respect for my Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ,” and apologized to Jews, he has never expressed regret over his comments about Katrina.


So according to Lieberman, endorsing John McCain and making offensive comments = parting the Red Sea.



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Wednesday, June 18, 2008

Christian Zionist Gathering Mired in Controversy

As well it should be!

by Bill Berkowitz


The battle lines over Pastor John Hagee have been drawn, redrawn, and are no doubt being drawn again as this is being written. The San Antonio, Texas-based mega-preacher with the multi-million-dollar empire has always been controversial, but these days, the pastor is a lightning rod for critics.


And as the days pass leading up to Hagee’s annual Christians United for Israel (CUFI) conference in Washington next month, new revelations of his anti-Semitism have come to light.


Preachers like Hagee, and there are many, many who are like him, have hated Jewish people for as long as I can remember. These kinds of preachers (some non-denominational, some Baptist, some from smaller denominations) have never had a kind word to say about Jewish people or Roman Catholics. We can now add Muslims to the mix, of course. Basically, they hate anyone and everyone who are not part of their "faith tradition." I use quotes, because I can't find anything faithful about them and the only real tradition they have is one of hate and division. The things they say in public are quite different from the things they say in private and they always have been.


At last year’s CUFI conference, Senator Joseph Lieberman called Hagee “an Ish Elochim”, saying he is “a man of God, and, like Moses, he is the leader of a mighty multitude.”


Hagee has been a whack-job for as long as I can remember but, in all seriousness, what has happened to Lieberman? Did we all just not realize how far 'round the bend "holy Joe" is or has something happened to him....like an internal head injury or a psycho-emotional breakdown of some kind?


"Like Moses, he is the leader of a mighty multitude?" A mighty multitude of what, exactly? A multitude of whack-jobs just like himself, except that his flock is much more poor than he is, for reasons obvious to any one who watches one of his sermons on occasion.


When it was first revealed that Hagee had made a series of anti-Catholic remarks, critics, including Bill Donohue of the conservative Catholic League, went ballistic. Hagee apologised. When Hagee blamed gay people for causing Hurricane Katrina, many were offended. Hagee offered up a half-hearted apology and quickly moved on.


Bill Donohue is like many others, in the Christian tradition, who seem shocked to find themselves in bed with snakes over the abortion and gay rights issues. Donohue, and others like him, really thought all of that Catholic-hating was over a long time ago. It is over among members and clergy of other mainline Christian Churches, for the most part. (There are always exceptions to every rule.) Nevertheless, the old saying still holds true; if one does not want to receive a deadly bite, one should not lie down with snakes.


When a preacher says a hateful thing about you or to you about another, why would you accept his apology and go on as if it had never happened? Because of a political bond of any kind? The diatribes of Hagee and those of his ilk are not mistakes he made in a fit of pique or while having a stroke. The snake meant every word he said, he just did not want you to hear it, for political expediency's sake.


To American Jews, Catholics and other targets of hatred by the far-right, fundamentalist, end-timer, crusading crackpots, I would issue, as I have on many a website other than this one, a dire warning: No matter what is at stake, don't hang out with the crazies. If you do, you will find crazy and, often times, dreadful things happening to you and to people you love.

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However, when Hagee’s remarks about Hitler being sent by God to force the Jews to pack their bags for Israel became a You Tube sensation — and then garnered the attention of the mainstream media — longtime allies in the Jewish community began to question what Hagee was up to.


As I said then, Hagee finally hit on the wrong voting block...............


They sure as hell better be questioning everything about Hagee and all of those who are like him. It has amazed and shocked me that Israeli politicians like Bibi Netanyahu and other Likudniks have allowed themselves to become so aligned with the likes of Hagee, Robertson, Falwell, when he was still alive, and others of the Religiously Insane of America, Inc. Perhaps the politicians of Israel, like the Neocons over here, don't believe that the beliefs of these nut-jobs matter all that much, as long as they and their flocks will help elect those friendly to Israel. WRONG!!!


Their beliefs will get you and, perhaps, us blown to hell and back, because their god is apparently so impotent and their theology so twisted, that they believe they have to help him out a little with Armageddon thing. It doesn't matter to them, you see, if Israel gets nuked, because Jesus will then descend and fix everything. Of course, all but around 144,000 of you guys will be road- kill on the road to heaven for them. When the Hagees of the world speak about the Jews being God's chosen people, it is to the 144,000 Jews, who will accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior, that they are referring. Jews who remain Jewish are bound for hell-fire and damnation just after being cannon fodder for Armageddon, along with the Muslims, who are all damned to hell, according to crusading-crackpot theology.


To his credit, Arizona Senator John McCain, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, quickly threw Hagee off the bus, despite having spent a year courting the pastor for his endorsement.



To his credit? TO HIS CREDIT? McCain doesn't get any credit for this. When a politician goes seeking a preacher's endorsement, he had damned well better know what that preacher has been preaching, especially when typical preachin' of this type usually contains pure hatred for one group or another.


However, the condemnation hasn’t been universal. A number of fellow Christian conservatives and Jewish leaders have rushed to defend the beleaguered pastor. While last year Hagee was treated like royalty at the annual conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, he prudently chose not to attend this year’s meeting earlier this month. Nevertheless, when his name was brought up by CUFI executive director David Brog, “the crowd broke into a lengthy round of applause, ending in a standing ovation,” the Jewish Daily Forward reported.


Hagee is an "us v. them," hate-mongering blabber-mouth. There is no way I will ever understand or defend Christians who would defend him and his ilk. Jews who defend him are either using him or they are too dumb to live, as a friend of mine describes anyone who does not know his enemies or, worse yet, mistakes his enemies for his friends.

From Jul. 21-24, Hagee’s Christians United for Israel will be holding its third annual “summit” in Washington. Among the scheduled speakers are Gary Bauer, a CUFI board member and longtime religious right activist and president of American Values; former Republican senator Rick Santorum; Israel’s ambassador to the United States, Sallai Meridor; Brad Gordon, co-director of Policy and Government Affairs at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC); Daniel Pipes; and Senator Joseph Lieberman.


Leonard Fein, in a Jewish Daily Forward piece titled “Our Hagee Problem Has Yet to Be Addressed” asked: “How many of these [the scheduled speakers at the CUFI conference] will now, in light of the new information about Hagee’s beliefs, cancel out? Or will they twist and turn to rationalize their continuing support for this false witness?”


I have to admit it will be interesting to see who walks away and who doesn't.


Despite pleas not to attend the Washington meeting from a number of organizations, including the newly formed Jewish group, J Street — which has partnered with Democracy for America in an effort called “Say It Ain’t So, Joe” — Lieberman appears thus far steadfast in his willingness to stand with Hagee.


One does have to wonder if Lieberman has had a stroke or something.


Some of the other guests are also being asked to forgo attending the conference. At the same time, Hagee’s pals are urging their followers to go to Washington and support the embattled preacher.


In defending Hagee, Stephen Strang, president and chairman of Christian Life Missions and regional director for CUFI, wrote that “Hagee has done more than any other Christian in our generation to show love to the Jews and to stand strong with Israel. Yet he made one comment, taken out of context about Hitler, that some liberal blogger says makes him anti-Semitic.”



For anyone to say that Hitler was an instrument of God....how can that be taken out of context? Hagee "shows love to the Jews" and stands strong with Israel? Has anyone asked him why? I can assure Holy Joe that it isn't because he does, indeed, love Jewish people. He doesn't. Hagee and his ilk still see Jews as "Christ-killers." . He supports Israel for one reason and one reason only; so that all of the Jews of the earth can be shoved back into that small spit of sand at the other end of the Mediterranean and the Temple can be rebuilt.


One comment as Strang alleges? Bruce Wilson, the investigative journalist who first put together the video of Hagee’s Hitler sermon, has uncovered more anti-Jewish material tucked away in the Hagee archives.


In an e-mail interview, Wilson told IPS that all of the Hagee material that he has been “writing about and making videos (short documentary videos in some cases) of has come from material that Hagee has mass marketed himself, mostly from his sermons.”


It is always so with big egos. Sooner or later, they get hung with their own words, when there are enough good people around who hear those words and expose them to the rest of the world.


According to Wilson, at Hagee’s Cornerstone Church in San Antonio on three consecutive Sundays in March 2003, the pastor delivered “sermons heavily loaded with anti-Jewish memes, stereotypes, slurs and conspiracy theories, one of which was almost identical to what was perhaps Adolph Hitler’s favorite conspiracy theory, which alleged that an international Jewish banking cabal, led by the Jewish Rothschild banking family, controls the fates of entire nations, even the progression of world events and history, through the manipulation of global money markets.”


This does not surprise me in the least. In the deep-south/bible-belt, where I grew up, it was often difficult to tell the difference between the preachers and the Klan or the NeoNazis.


The three sermons — delivered on the eve of, and just after, the invasion of Iraq — were packaged and sold by Hagee’s ministry as “Iraq: The Final War.”


There is no final war; not as long a mankind exists, untransformed, on the earth.


WWI was supposed to be the last world-war, as people actually believed that it would be the last war man would be willing to endure; the weapons of war having become so much more terrible with TNT. As a matter of fact, that was the hope of the maker of dynamite.

Then, as WWII was coming to a close, two atomic bombs were used by the U.S. on Japan, primarily to scare the wits out of Stalin. Many believed that those two Mushroom clouds signaled the end of world-wide war. Nope, those hideous clouds simply marked the beginning of the "cold-war," with hot out-breaks periodically, and the never-ending feeding of the beast, known as the military-industrial-complex.


Wilson claims that Hagee’s sermons are part of a distinct and “deeply disturbing pattern.” He notes that Hagee’s Cornerstone Church members have sung “Blow the Trumpet in Zion” at CUFI’s “signature event”, the Night to Honour Israel, with scripture drawn from the Second Book of Joel, Chapter 2, verses 1-11.


“That scripture…concerns prophecy forecasting the invasion and ‘desolation’ of Israel expected by Hagee and his church flock, which is divided into 12 administrative units each named for a Tribe of Israel,” Wilson said.


Hagee and his crowd are NUTZ, but that does not mean that they aren't dangerous as hell. They are. Of all the types of insanity, religious insanity is the most dangerous.


Although the preaching of Hagee and other conservative Christian evangelicals has been going on for decades, “Few in the American Jewish community, or the Israeli Jewish community, grasp the magnitude of the anti-Jewish hatred that has been stoked from American pulpits and American televangelist broadcast networks,” Wilson recently wrote.


And Mr Wilson is absolutely right.


After WWII and the horrors of Hitler's concentration camps came to light, antisemitism became more and more frowned upon in the U.S., except among some religious groups, such as that of Hagee, and semi-religious groups like the Klan/ the Neo-nazis. When it comes to hatred, there isn't a dimes worth of difference between them.


“The propaganda has been slightly coded but in the end not very subtle. Rather than directly vilify Jews, Christian fundamentalist preachers and leaders have for decades vilified groups and terms that traditionally, for better or worse, have been associated with Jews.”


While some Jewish leaders reject out of hand the End Times theory that sees Israel as the final battleground before the return of Christ, others prefer to look away, sometimes even laughing off the loopier aspects of these apocalyptic visions on the one hand, while accepting millions of dollars of support for their favorite Israel charities and powerful political network the Christian Zionists have built.


In other words, we have fools using fools using fools for their own political gains and mythic level theology.


Bruce Wilson’s research, and the attendant publicity it generated, has likely forced Hagee to the sidelines for the bulk of the presidential campaign. When asked whether his new discoveries will lead to the severing of ties between Hagee and some of his most fervent Jewish supporters, Wilson told IPS that “were they to get anything close to the same level of media play as the ‘God sent Hitler’ video it might. Barring that, it would probably take something even more shocking to cause such a rift.”


Fools and more fools.......


Will Lieberman and Pipes continue backing Hagee regardless of what other anti-Jewish commentaries might be discovered? Will CUFI continue to escalate its push for the Bush Administration to deal militarily with Iran? These questions might be answered when CUFI members flock to Washington next month.


Perhaps the fools should be joined and confronted....


Bill Berkowitz is a longtime observer of the conservative movement. His column “Conservative Watch” documents the strategies, players, institutions, victories and defeats of the U.S. Right.

Copyright © 2008 IPS-Inter Press Service



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Monday, December 17, 2007

Holy Joe Backs McCain for Prez

Anyone surprised by this?

By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer 5 minutes ago

Sen. John McCain, trying to keep momentum in this state's critical Republican primary race, brought in something unusual on Monday — an endorsement from the other party's former vice presidential nominee.

Sen. Joseph Lieberman, Democrat Al Gore's running mate in 2000, said he had intended to wait until after the primaries to make a choice for the 2008 presidential race. But McCain asked for his support and no Democrat did.

Lieberman, an independent who caucuses with the Democrats, said he chose his longtime Senate colleague because he has the best shot of breaking partisan gridlock in Washington. Both men also support the war in Iraq.

When the next congress convenes in January of 2009, if the Dems have the majority, Holy Joe should lose his chairmanships in every committee on which he sits. No one need make a big deal about it. The leadership should simply make the assignments from among the Democratic Party members. Joe is no longer a Democrat since he acted like a child, refused to recognize the will of the Democrats in his own state and ran as an independent, backed mostly by Republicans.

"On all the issues, you're never going to do anything about them unless you have a leader who can break through the partisan gridlock," Lieberman said. "The status quo in Washington is not working."

....and you think that endorsing McCain is the way to do away with the insane partisanship we've witnessed over the past 7 years? All you have accomplished by this, Joe, is to make the Dems angrier than ever, though no one should really be surprised by this slap in the face, after you acted like a spoiled child when you lost the 2006 primary.

Independents can vote in New Hampshire's first-in-the-nation primary on Jan. 8, and they are the people McCain is targeting, much as he did in winning the state's Republican primary in 2000 over George W. Bush.

Much has happened since 2000, Mr. McCain. Your party has driven our nation over a cliff on every issue I can think of, domestically, has damn near destroyed it internationally and, barring a miracle, the economic is just around the bend. You are no longer seen as a maverick by independents (at least, not any of the Indy 500, some of whom actually question your mental stability) mainly because you have done nothing but suck up to George W. Bush, like you expected something in return, even after he allowed his campaign to call your wife a drug addict and tried to convince the people of S.C. that your daughter is a product of an interracial affair. Forgiveness is one thing. Forgetting is another. I could never trust a man who would forget and become allies with a man who did push-polling like that on my wife and child. Pathetic!

Traveling with Lieberman Monday morning to Hillsborough's American Legion hall, McCain said the Connecticut senator is his answer to the people he hears in every town hall meeting who ask, "Why can't you all work together?"

That's not much of an answer, Mr. MCain. It only mean you have the endorsement of an American who might as well be a member of the Likud party of Israel. Of course, there is certainly nothing wrong with being a member of the Likud Party, but since we don't have one, in the U.S., Mr. Lieberman should move to Israel, where I am sure he would be welcomed with open arms, or organize a Likud Party here

Lieberman said McCain's approach to Iraq and his credentials on national security are the main reasons he is supporting a Republican for president.

But both men said the election seems increasingly about the economy and domestic issues rather than Iraq. On those issues, Lieberman acknowledged he does not always see eye-to-eye with his 2008 pick. But, said Lieberman, McCain is always straightforward about where he stands.

Yes, I like a man or woman who say what he/she really thinks, too, and is straight forward with the American people about where he/she stand on the issues. But I have heard this over and over with regard to George W Bush; "You may not agree with him, but at least you know where he stands," meaning that that is why people should vote for him. That makes absolutely no sense to me. It makes it seem as if we have the choice of voting for a pathological liar or someone who tells the truth about where he stands but his policies are killing our nation. Of course, Georgie may have been honest about his tax policies - cut them, especially for the super wealthy and the corporations. But he and the top members of his administration told the American people the worst kind of lies, the kind of lies that made many of us unwitting war criminals.

Some of us saw the writing on the wall early and said "Hell No" to supporting the unjust, illegal war in Iraq which led to other horrible atrocities, done in our name, others bought the lies, lock, stock and barrel and, still others, I hate to say, didn't give a damn if the war was legal or not, whether or not in was just, nor did they care what happened to innocent Iraqis caught up in Bush's gulag system in Iraq. They are, in my mind, as guilty as BushCo and should be in the World Court dock right along with their war preznit. There are responsibilities that fall on the shoulders of the citizens of a Democracy (again, pretending for a moment that we still have one). Holding our government accountable for crimes against humanity, crimes against peace, as in wars of aggression, one way or the other, is one of those responsibilities. At the very least, supporting such a government is a crime in itself. Once the highest officials in the land, in any or all branches of the government begin regularly behaving lawlessly, the other branches should stop and hold the law-breakers accountable. If they refuse to do so, the people must act.

For McCain, behind in the polls here but gaining, the endorsement carries the risk of alienating conservatives who have been critical of his support for immigration and campaign finance reforms.

"If I get some criticism for aligning myself with a good friend I have worked with for many years, I will be more than happy to accept that criticism," McCain said.

For Lieberman, it marks another turn away from the Democrats.

"Political party is important, but it's not more important than what's good for the country and it's not more important than friendship," Lieberman said.

One more thing you and McCain disagree on, Joe. Have you ever heard a Republican say that anything is more important that party?

Lieberman won re-election to the Senate in 2006 as an independent, after losing the Democratic primary largely because of his support for the war. High-profile Democrats abandoned him after the primary defeat.

Leading Democrats weren't happy with his latest move.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada said in a statement: "I have the greatest respect for Joe, but I simply have to disagree with his decision to endorse Senator McCain."

Al From, the founder and CEO of the centrist Democratic Leadership Council, said, "I am very saddened by Senator Lieberman's choice and profoundly disagree with it. We need to elect a Democratic president in 2008."


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Wednesday, July 18, 2007

Bush, Cheney and Lieberman: Deport Them!

Let's not forget the biggest opportunity of all; the anthrax attacks, making the way smooth for the "Enabling Act." (patriot act)

Opportunistic Tyrants

A. Alexander, July 8th, 2007

If politicians, especially the likes of Joe Lieberman, Dick Cheney and George W. Bush should ever wonder why the American people no longer consider their counsel on terrorism to be worthy of deliberation, they need only observe their own politically opportunistic behavior.

These politicians too often pat themselves on the back, after having directed the FBI to find a group of mentally challenged individuals and helping make them into terrorists; they preoccupy themselves by trying to spin a faraway and farfetched terror plot to their domestic political advantage; or they simply make up lies about al Qaeda having overrun Iraq. In all instances, at best, the claims of these particular politicians are based firmly upon half-truths and regardless of the circumstance, they are always trying to use events primarily as the means to strip away from the American people, their individual rights and freedoms.

If there is a bomb anywhere in the world, these politicians immediately link it to the war in Iraq and a need for more domestic spying. There is no tragedy that they aren't willing to exploit for their own nefarious political ends.

The latest London plots proved to be no exception. Mister Bush quickly moved to link it to the importance of victory in Iraq. Mister Lieberman found himself on the Sunday morning talk show circuit and called for more cameras to be placed here-there-everywhere within American cities. He also attacked Democrats for trying to hold the Bush administration's actions within the confines of the Constitution and rule of law. According to Lieberman, Democrats are terrible people for daring to, in light of the London plots, set rules and limits on the government's ability to spy upon innocent American citizens - as if the one had anything to do with the other. Their only response to terrorism anywhere, is to limit freedom everywhere.

Who could trust such lowlife opportunists? Mister Bush, Cheney and Lieberman fancy themselves as being too smart for everyone to figure out, but they and their motivation have become transparent enough to make it possible for one to read through them the fine print of a health insurance policy. These politicians aren't interested in keeping the American people safe. They are only interested in manipulating the fear of the American people and furthering their own stygian political objectives, which involve increasingly consolidating power in the hands of a select few.

The opinions and counsel of these politicians, especially the likes of Joe Lieberman, Dick Cheney and George W. Bush, are no longer considered by the American people because they have been exposed for the opportunistic tyrants that they are.


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Saturday, June 16, 2007

A Call For Holy Joe's Resignation!

Please don't call this stupid f*** an independent. He is still registered as a Democrat, but in name only.

Why doesn't he just start a Likud party and be done with it?

Party head lambastes Lieberman on Iran
PETER URBAN
purban@ctpost.com
Article Last Updated: 06/12/2007 11:32:39 PM EDT

WASHINGTON — Connecticut for Lieberman Party Chairman John Orman called Tuesday for Sen. Joe Lieberman to resign, saying his advocacy of a military strike against Iran could explode into a global conflict.

"He has crossed the line," said Orman, a professor of politics at Fairfield University. "His unilateral warmongering could lead to a new World War III."

During an appearance on "Face the Nation" on CBS Sunday, Lieberman said the United States should consider a military strike against Iran because of Tehran's involvement in Iraq.

"I think we've got to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq," Lieberman said. "And to me, that would include a strike over the border into Iran, where we have good evidence that they have a base at which they are training these people coming back into Iraq to kill our soldiers."

Lieberman reiterated his call for a military strike on Monday during an appearance on Fox News in which he claimed that Tehran is training and arming Iraqi insurgents to kill American and Iraqi soldiers. He also suggested that failing to launch a military strike now would embolden Tehran's efforts to develop nuclear weapons.

"If we let them get away with this they will continue to move throughout the region and if we think we are going to have a prayer of a chance to stop them from developing nuclear weapons, it's not going to happen unless they take us seriously," Lieberman said.

Orman, a former Democrat, switched party affiliation and took over the Connecticut for Lieberman Party earlier this year. Lieberman created the party last August to run for re-election as an independent after losing the state's Democratic primary to Ned Lamont of Greenwich. However, Lieberman never joined the new party and remains a registered Democrat.

Orman issued a news release Tuesday asking Lieberman to immediately resign and urging Connecticut Gov. M. Jodi Rell to appoint Susan Henshaw, secretary of the Connecticut for Lieberman Party, as his replacement.

Lieberman did not immediately respond to a request for comment Tuesday.

The senator's saber rattling has also drawn sharp criticism from other Democrats who oppose the Iraq war.

Lamont said Monday on Air America Radio that Lieberman was "to the right of the mainstream of the Republican Party" when it comes to Iran.

"If anything has come out that's slightly positive of this Bush administration in the last few months it's that they have now had some beginnings of conversations with the Iranians. And this is just what Joe Lieberman is trying to squash. It's really unfortunate," Lamont said.

Retired Gen. Wesley Clark urged Lieberman Monday to stop advocating a military strike against Iran, saying it is "highly irresponsible and counterproductive."

"Sen. Lieberman's saber rattling does nothing to help dissuade Iran from aiding Shia militias in Iraq, or trying to obtain nuclear capabilities," said Clark, who in 2004 was one of Lieberman's rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination. "This kind of rhetoric is irresponsible and only plays into the hands of President Ahmadinejad, and those who seek an excuse for military action."

During an appearance Sunday on CNN's "Late Edition," Democratic presidential hopeful Bill Richardson said tough negotiations are needed to deal with Iran's nuclear ambitions.
"Sanctions would work on Iran," he said. "They are susceptible to disinvestment policy. They are susceptible to cuts, economic sanctions in commodities."

Lieberman responded Monday on Fox News to Richardson and Clark. "I believe in talk too, but the Europeans talked to the Iranians for more than two years to stop [their] nuclear weapons development program and it had zero effect," Lieberman said.

Lieberman said Clark's view "doesn't relate to the realities on the ground in the Middle East" where Arab leaders worry "about the belligerence of Iran."

"They sent me a very clear message that unless the Iranians know that America means business, they are just going to keep moving," Lieberman said.

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Tuesday, May 15, 2007

Lieberman Fundraises for a Republican

Holy Joe is at it again.

The Democrats have a senate majority in name only.


Lieberman Helps Collect Cash for Collins

Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.) is never going to win any popularity contests among his party's liberal base -- a fact he seems decidedly unconcerned about despite his 2006 Democratic primary loss to Ned Lamont.

Not only has Lieberman endorsed Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine.) -- one of Democrats' biggest targets in the 2008 cycle -- but he's planning to co-host a fundraiser for her on June 21 in Washington, D.C.

The event, which will be held in a Capitol Hill location still to be determined, will feature Lieberman and Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) -- a very rare bipartisan fundraiser. Attendees are being asked to raise $3,000; $2,000 would come in the form of a political action committee donation while the other $1,000 would be a personal contribution, according to an electronic invite for the fundraiser obtained today by The Fix.

"Let's try to make this a bi-partisan tour de force," reads the invite.

"Senator Specter approached Senator Collins with the idea of doing a joint fundraising event with Senator Lieberman," said Collins spokeswoman Jen Burita. "Both senators are colleagues with whom she works well and good friends, so we thought it was a great idea."

Lieberman's willingness to work openly for Collins's reelection will surely not sit well with Democratic strategists who want Rep. Tom Allen (D) to oust the two-term incumbent. For Lieberman, his support of Collins is payback. She was one of a handful of senators who campaigned for him in the general election following his loss in the Democratic primary to Lamont. (He ran for and won reelection as an independent.) Lieberman and Collins also serve together as the chairman and ranking member, respectively, of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee in the Senate.

The Republican strategy in the race is clearly to kill Allen's candidacy in the crib. The National Republican Senatorial Committee is up with an Internet ad that dissects Allen's own Web announcement.

Despite the state's Democratic lean -- John Kerry won it by 9 points in 2004 -- Collins cruised to victory in 2002 over a candidate that Democrats were certain could beat her. Collins benefited from President Bush's overall popularity and the strength of the Republican brand at that time.

Over the past six years much has changed. Democrats will work to hang Bush and the war in Iraq around Collins's neck, but the junior Senator from Maine has shown a willingness to punch back when necessary.

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Tuesday, February 13, 2007

Joe Lieberman's Irrational Fear of Muslims

by BooMan
Sun Feb 11th, 2007

According to Jeffrey's Goldberg's new article in the New Yorker Joe Lieberman is fascinated with Mark Steyn's new book, America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It. Here's a description:

In this, his first major book, Mark Steyn--probably the most widely read, and
wittiest, columnist in the English-speaking world--takes on the great poison of
the twenty-first century: the anti-Americanism that fuels both Old Europe and
radical Islam. America, Steyn argues, will have to stand alone. The world will
be divided between America and the rest; and for our sake America had better
win.
Here's what Lieberman has to say about the book:

“The thing I quote most from it is the power of demographics, in Europe
particularly,” Lieberman said. “That’s what struck me the most. But the other
part is a kind of confirmation of what I know and what I’ve read elsewhere,
which is that Islamist extremism has an ideology, and it’s expansionist, it’s an
aggressive ideology. And the title I took to mean that we Americans will have
ultimate responsibility for stopping this expansionism.”

Here's how his colleague Chris Dodd explains Joe Lieberman's myopia:

Christopher Dodd offered another perspective. A popular figure in the Senate who has the buoyancy of a natural politician, Dodd portrayed Lieberman as the last of the uncomplicated neoconservatives.

I think there was this assumption that democracy was just waiting to blossom,”
Dodd said of Iraq. “Let’s assume the President believed this, that it wouldn’t
take much to produce a democratic society in Iraq. I’m not opposed to that, and
I think that may happen, but the idea that you could go from where they were was
a leap of faith, and many took that leap. Joe took that leap. He thought this
was one way to bring stability in the region.”

An 'uncomplicated neo-conservative' that thinks it is America's mission to fight alone against the rest of the world, including Europe, against the threat of Islam; that is Joe Lieberman, and if we follow his advice the whole world is doomed.

Let's look at Lieberman's dedication to the Democratic Party.

In the campaign, Lieberman said that he would join the Democratic caucus if elected, and his victory was the deciding one that gave the Democrats control of the Senate. But he told me recently that his attachment to the Party is based in some measure on sentiment, and should not necessarily be thought of as eternal.

And what might make Lieberman bolt the party?

Lieberman was not willing to say whether he would remain a Democrat if the Party cut off funding for the war. “That would be stunning to me,” he said. “And very hurtful. And I’d be deeply affected by it. Let’s put it that way.”

So, basically, he won't remain a Democrat if the Democrats actually prevail over the neo-conservative agenda of permanent solo war against the will of the rest of the world combined. He's already said that he may not support the Democratic nominee for President in 2008.
Let's face it. Lieberman is bordering on insane in his irrational fear of Muslims. We should consider having him committed.

And this is what Chris Dodd has to say about Lieberman's detachment from reality.


I asked Dodd if he has spoken to any other senators who are as optimistic as Lieberman is about Iraq.

“I’ll tell you, I bet this has happened fifteen times in the last few
days—conservative Republicans have said to me that they’ve told the White House
that this is the last vote you’re going to get out of them, a vote against the
Iraq resolution,” Dodd said. “They’re angry, and they sure don’t believe the new
plan is going to work.”

You're out there all alone, Joe. Your grasp of reality is slipping by the day. And the people back home are beginning to notice.

Later, a leader of the local Strafford County Democrats, Tim Ashwell, said, “This is a very antiwar community.” I asked him about Lieberman, and his hapless 2004 campaign for the Democratic Presidential nomination; Lieberman placed fifth in the New Hampshire primary, and dropped out of the race soon after. Ashwell didn’t find that surprising. “People don’t think of Lieberman as a Democrat,” he said.

More and more, people don't think he has a handle on reality either.


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Tuesday, January 30, 2007

A Message to Holy Joe, or Liebeman the Likudnik

Message to Joe Lieberman: “Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn”
By Mary MacElveen
January 29, 2007

In his appearance on Fox News, Joe Lieberman stated, “I'm going to do what most Independents and a lot of Democrats and Republicans in America do, which is to take a look at all the candidates and then in the end, regardless of party, decide who I think will be best for the future of our country.” When asked who he would vote for in the 2008 presidential elections.

Time after time, Joe Lieberman has sided with the Republicans and has even adopted the Bush Doctrine concerning both Iraq and Katrina. He would rather spend billions more in fighting a war in Iraq instead of using that money here at home to rebuild the storm ravaged region hit hard by Katrina. So, what he has said in essence is that he will vote Republican. I just wish that he had the courage to say so.

I liken him to former Mayor Ed Koch of New York City who in the past has endorsed Republican candidates over those within his own party. As far as Lieberman calling himself an Independent-Democrat, for honesty sake, it is up to him to call himself an Independent-Neo-Conservative since most of his positions are based on the Neo-conservative way of thinking.

Ed Koch’s endorsement of President Bush had little effect here in New York State in which the 2004 presidential race went in favor of Senator John Kerry. Long Island which was the bastion of Republican dominance for years is slowly turning blue, since we have seen all too clearly how Republican leadership has turned its back on its citizens. Trust me on this since I know. But, through strong Democratic leadership, it has changed course.

Personally, I do think that the media, namely Fox News gave his opinion far too much relevance of who he would vote for. There are millions of Americans who will see the irrelevancy of Joe Lieberman. And I would submit those in New Orleans, Mississippi and parts of Alabama who were hit by Katrina would turn their backs on his opinion as he has turned his back on them.

When Chris Wallace asked him his opinion of the Democratic front-runners who are Senator Clinton, Senator Obama and former Senator Edwards, Lieberman responded, “Well, you make a decision based on a whole range of issues. But obviously, the positions that some candidates have taken in Iraq troubles me. Obviously, I will be looking at what positions they take in the larger war against Islamist terrorism.”

In essence, Lieberman is using a litmus test to see who will get his endorsement and vote in 2008. Note to Clinton, Obama and Edwards, just shrug your shoulders at Lieberman and go full speed ahead with your respective campaigns. Let the people decide. Lieberman’s opinion should not over power those who will vote in the Democratic primaries. At least they stayed Democrat, unlike Lieberman who acted like a spoiled child when he was defeated by Ned Lamont in the Connecticut Democratic primary. He acted like a child, took his toys and went home.

What an adult would have done was to realize the people spoke and supported their will at the ballot box.

Joe in using his litmus test of Islamist terrorism should be looking for an answer that is found in Senator John Kerry's speech when he stated he would not seek another run at the White House in 2008. Please pay close attention to when he stated, “Where is the diplomacy? Many of us can remember, under a Republican President, Henry Kissinger shuttling back and forth day and night working to bring an end to the Vietnam War. Many of us can remember Jim Baker, at the beginning of the decade in the nineties, when he took 15 trips to Syria alone, and on the final trip got President Asad to actually agree to support what we were doing. That is diplomacy.”
He then went onto add, “We don't have that kind of diplomacy. We lack even a special envoy there day to day, hour to hour, leveraging the Arab League, leveraging the United Nations, working with the U.N. Perm Five, working with the neighboring countries, doing the kinds of significant, heavy diplomatic lifting our sons and daughters who are dying deserve.” We just went through two bloody weekends in which over thirty of our military personnel died over in Iraq and this could have been avoided had there been this heavy lifting of diplomacy that Senator Kerry spoke of. In failing to do this heavy diplomatic lifting over 3,000 U.S. soldiers are now dead. That is Joe Lieberman’s legacy.

In comparing the Islamist terrorists to the “communists we faced in the last century” what Lieberman forgets and Senator Kerry rightfully brings up is that in the past the “heavy diplomatic lifting” was done by prior administrations than this one. Over time through this heavy diplomatic lifting the wall came down that separated East and West Germany with the assistance by the late Pope John Paul II. The late Pope knew more than anyone the ravages of communism since he grew up in Poland. He used his power in order to help bring about peace.

The late Pope even stated as President Bush was to launch the ‘Shock and Awe’ campaign, “You go without God."

In his speech, Senator Kerry taught us all the history that has led to the violence between the Sunnis and the Shiites. This is beneficial to the American people and in her best interests to understand. America’s national interest is to actually learn from history how this region became what it is today. What is in our best interests is to help both groups of people come to some form of consensus similar to what Senator Jim Webb in his rebuttal speech to President Bush’s SOTU address which was, “we will be showing him the way.” Not in an adversarial way, but a diplomatic way. We must be able to help these people fully understand that peace is in their best interests and do so as we roll up our sleeves and do the heavy lifting.

Senator Lieberman stated, “Well, I was really disappointed with the reaction of Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid to the president's offer or invitation to have essentially a bipartisan war council, and it's a war on terror council.” This president along with the Republican Party has shut out what any Democrat has had to say in the last six years. Bi-partisanship to them meant doing things their way and if not done, labeling those who did not go along with the program as being un-patriotic.

The Iraq Study Group which was a bi-partisan group of people even tried to advise President Bush and he threw their recommendations back in their face by ignoring the study. In backing President Bush’s plan for troop increases, this is what Senator Kerry had to say as he cited the Iraq Study Group, “the Iraq Study Group report effectively sets a goal of withdrawing U.S. combat forces from Iraq by the first quarter of 2008, or within approximately 1 year.”

Those like Lieberman will take what this group had to say and put their recommendations in the shredder and what will transpire are more deaths on both sides. Their deaths are relevant instead of who Joe Lieberman will support and vote for in the 2008 presidential races.

As I was listening to Joe Lieberman’s interview with Chris Wallace a line from “Gone with the Wind” came to mind in which Rhett Butler states to Scarlett O'Hara, “Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.” And neither should those who will be voting in the Democratic primaries, the Republican primaries and the American people who will be voting in the 2008 presidential election.

Authors note: To all reading this, please take time to read the numerous articles posted here at http://www.marymacelveen.com

Thanks,
Mary MacElveen!


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