Showing posts with label Jews. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Jews. Show all posts

Thursday, March 13, 2008

Alterman: Questions and Answers

What the Hell is wrong with John McCain. Is Hagee any less of an idiot than Farrakhan? Me thinks not.

Have the Jews gone crazy?

Well, I know quite a few who haven't and they find Israel's growing alignment with American Christian crusading-crackpots as very disturbing. Along with us, they find our own government's (at least this administration's) granting of access to the halls of power to this group of loons highly disturbing.

We I.U.s have warned Israel, through message boards and news outlets in Israel, that they are making a huge mistake aligning themselves with Hagee and his ilk. In doing so, they alienate many Americans who then question Israeli policy, whether it's considered anti-semitic or not. We do not consider criticizing Israeli policy as being anti-semitic anymore than criticism of Germany's policy is being anti-German.

No one should know better than we, hapless Americans, that ordinary people cannot be held responsible for their government's idiotic policies, especially when those ordinary people have fought courageously against them.

Can the Israelis possibly not understand that the crusading-crackpots have hell in store for them? That they intend to bring about Armageddon if they possibly can, and that all but 144,000 Jews and all Muslims will be nothing but cannon fodder, so that the Temple can be re-built. (Jesus won't come back until it is, for some strange reason. It's hard to believe that he is off pouting somewhere until the deaths of possibly millions make it possible for a Temple to be built. I just really find that hard to believe, since I have read the Bible and He doesn't seem to be a war-mongering, blood thirsty type.)

I hope that they don't think that reading the Christian Bible helps them know the crackpots and their agenda. Half of what they teach isn't even in the Bible. Take the rapture for example. No where is the rapture to be found, not even in the magic-mushroom induced Revelation of John.

The Israelis should hear what these people say when no one but they own little flock of loons is listening, when the cameras aren't rolling. It ain't pretty. I've heard it.

Hear Oh Israel! Don't align yourselves with hate-mongering idiots.

And then there's Rover. Of course he is consulting with McCain and his campaign. What knot-head would believe that he isn't? He will back Satan himself over a Democrat. The man has a pathological hatred for Democrats. When he slithered out of an indictment, didn't we all know he would be back, in another guise. Enough said.

Altercation, by Eric Alterman

Are we going to war with Iran? "The Man Between War and Peace" is gone.

In reading the Forward this week, I came across some useful questions and answers having to do with politicians, their supporters, and the media's lack of interest in really covering them. For instance: Who is John Hagee? Here are some answers:

On Hurricane Katrina: "All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that ... I believe that Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans."

On the Catholic Church: "Most readers will be shocked by the clear record of history linking Adolf Hitler and the Roman Catholic Church in a conspiracy to exterminate the Jews."

On Muslims: Asked whether he believes that Muslims have a mandate to kill Christians and Jews, Hagee replied, "Well, the Quran teaches that. Yes, it teaches that very clearly."

On women: "Do you know the difference between a woman with PMS and a snarling Doberman pinscher? The answer is lipstick. Do you know the difference between a terrorist and a woman with PMS? You can negotiate with a terrorist."

On the Antichrist: "He's going to make a seven-year treaty with Israel and set up his image to be worshiped in Israel. And that is where I'm convinced that a Jewish person who understands who he is shoots him, because the Bible says he's wounded in the head and recovers wondrously, emulating the death and the resurrection of Jesus Christ. At this point in time when he comes back to life he has the personality of a Hitler. He now pursues the Jewish people. The Jewish people then go to Petra, which is a place in Jordan that is a natural fortress. And that God is going to provide for them there protection from him. And as he gets ready to pursue him, the Bible says that he, the Antichrist, hears tidings from the east that disturb him. The tidings from the east is that... the Chinese army is marching up the Euphrates River, 200 million of them, and they're moving toward the battle of Armageddon, because they want the oil that will make them a superpower."

On the Israeli-Palestinian peace process: "When the Annapolis Conference was being planned and the topic of dividing Jerusalem came up, one man asked me, 'Where do you stand on this based on the Bible?' I responded that 'the plan of the Antichrist is to divide Jerusalem.' If America puts pressure on Israel to divide Jerusalem we are following the blueprint of the Prince of Darkness. Amos 3:2 states that any nation that divides the Land of Israel will come under the severe judgment of God."

Turns out he is also the fellow who was invited to the annual conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, and is greeted there with rapturous applause. He is given the "Humanitarian of the Year" award by the San Antonio B'nai B'rith Council. He is honored with the Zionist Organization of America's "Israel Award."

Also, who is James Baker? He is a McCain endorser who, as secretary of State, was famous for telling the president "Fuck the Jews." Are we all OK with that, neocons who are hysterical about Samantha Power, Rob Malley, and Zbigniew Brzezinski?

Is anti-Semitism growing in the United States? Antisemitic Incidents Down for Third Year: "The ADL counted 1,357 antisemitic incidents in the United States last year, compared with 1,554 in 2006 -- a 13% decrease. The number of reported episodes has declined steadily for the past three years, according to the organization."

George Zornick adds: During televised political discussions, it's always good journalistic form to identify if the person talking is actively supporting a candidate's campaign -- is the person giving their analysis, or the party line? (That's an indistinguishable difference for some pundits these days, but never mind. At least tell us if the commentator has been hired by a politician to be there). So when we see this, it's disturbing:

Republican strategist and Fox News contributor Karl Rove appeared on Fox News' America's Election HQ and Hannity & Colmes to discuss the presidential race, but none of the hosts -- Bill Hemmer, Sean Hannity, or Alan Colmes -- asked Rove whether he was "informally advising" Sen. John McCain's campaign, as a Politico article citing "[a] top McCain adviser" reported, and none noted that Rove has reportedly confirmed donating to McCain's campaign.

This is somewhat ambiguous, since Rove is only reported -- albeit by a top McCain adviser -- to be on board with the campaign. But the hosts have to at least ask the question. Beyond just being bad journalistic form in this case, it's also doubly problematic because Karl Rove is considered by many to be a chief architect of the Bush presidency, and so his active support of John McCain raises the question of how closely McCain's leadership would mirror that of the past eight years. It's a question voters have to evaluate, and it's important to have crucial facts like this. If in the coming months Rove ever leaves the comfy confines of Fox News for, say, the Sunday show circuit, it will be interesting to see if he is identified properly.

Speaking of the Sunday talk circuit, The New York Times reports (via CJR) that Barack Obama made a conscious decision to avoid it as a freshman senator:

Determined to be viewed as substantive, Mr. Obama kept his head down, declining Sunday talk show invitations for his first year, and consulted Senate elders for advice.

So Sen. Obama thinks not appearing on Meet the Press, et al, helps him to be seen as substantive. Let's hope he explains to Russert exactly why he believes that during his next appearance. That would be a substantive interview.


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Friday, October 12, 2007

Ann Coulter and The Jews

Annie, the Idiot, has picked up on the worng people this time.

Ann Coulter Thinks That Jews Need to be Perfected by Becoming Christians

Posted October 10, 2007 | 07:39 PM (EST)



Well then, I knew eventually that the parasites using my religion for cover in order to pursue their politics of hate would either finally expose themselves as the anti-Semites that they are or be run-out of town. I had hoped the latter would come first, frankly, because I thought us a reasonable people, a reasonable nation. Instead, we get Ann Coulter finally revealing what her views are on the topic of Judaism.

The below exchange (via Media Matters) is from her October 8 appearance on CNBC's The Big Idea with Donny Deutsch (emph, mine):



DEUTSCH: -- are calculated marketing teases, and your dreams, which are genuine, came true having to do with immigration, having to do with women's -- with abortion -- what would this country look like?

COULTER: It would look like New York City during the Republican National Convention. In fact, that's what I think heaven is going to look like.

DEUTSCH: And what did that look like?

COULTER: Happy, joyful Republicans in the greatest city in the world.

DEUTSCH: No, no, no, no, but I'm talking about this country. You don't want to make this country -- it's not about Republicans. I'm saying, what would the fabric of this country look like? Forget that the Republicans would be running the show.

COULTER: Well, everyone would root for America, the Democratic Party would look like [Sen.] Joe Lieberman [I-CT], the Republican Party would look like [Rep.] Duncan Hunter [R-CA] --

DEUTSCH: No, no, no, I don't want -- I'm not talking about politically the landscape. What would our -- would we be safer? Would people be happier? Would they be more --

COULTER: We would be a lot safer.

DEUTSCH: Would there be more tolerance? Would there be -- would women be happier, would the races get along better? The Ann Coulter subscription -- prescription. What -- tell me what would be different in our fabric of country, because --

COULTER: Well, all of those things.

DEUTSCH: -- I can give -- I can give you an argument there would be more divisiveness, that there would be more hate --

COULTER: Oh, no.

DEUTSCH: -- that there would be a bigger difference between the rich and the poor, a lot of other -- tell me what -- why this would be a better world? Let's give you -- I'm going to give you -- say this is your show.

COULTER: Well, OK, take the Republican National Convention. People were happy. They're Christian. They're tolerant. They defend America, they --

DEUTSCH: Christian -- so we should be Christian? It would be better if we were all Christian?

COULTER: Yes.

DEUTSCH: We should all be Christian?

COULTER: Yes. Would you like to come to church with me, Donny?

DEUTSCH: So I should not be a Jew, I should be a Christian, and this would be a better place?

COULTER: Well, you could be a practicing Jew, but you're not.

DEUTSCH: I actually am. That's not true. I really am. But -- so we would be better if we were - if people -- if there were no Jews, no Buddhists --

COULTER: Whenever I'm harangued by --

DEUTSCH: -- in this country? You can't believe that.

COULTER: -- you know, liberals on diversity --

DEUTSCH: Here you go again.

COULTER: No, it's true. I give all of these speeches at megachurches across America, and the one thing that's really striking about it is how utterly, completely diverse they are, and completely unself-consciously. You walk past a mixed-race couple in New York, and it's like they have a chip on their shoulder. They're just waiting for somebody to say something, as if anybody would. And --

DEUTSCH: I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that at all. Maybe you have the chip looking at them. I see a lot of interracial couples, and I don't see any more or less chips there either way. That's erroneous.

COULTER: No. In fact, there was an entire Seinfeld episode about Elaine and her boyfriend dating because they wanted to be a mixed-race couple, so you're lying.

DEUTSCH: Oh, because of some Seinfeld episode? OK.

COULTER: But yeah, I think that's reflective of what's going on in the culture, but it is completely striking that at these huge megachurches -- the idea that, you know, the more Christian you are, the less tolerant you would be is preposterous.

DEUTSCH: That isn't what I said, but you said I should not -- we should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians, then, or --

COULTER: Yeah.

DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Well, it's a lot easier. It's kind of a fast track.

DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Yeah. You have to obey.

DEUTSCH: You can't possibly believe that.

COULTER: Yes.

DEUTSCH: You can't possibly -- you're too educated, you can't -- you're like my friend in --

COULTER: Do you know what Christianity is? We believe your religion, but you have to obey.

DEUTSCH: No, no, no, but I mean --

COULTER: We have the fast-track program.

DEUTSCH: Why don't I put you with the head of Iran? I mean, come on. You can't believe that.

COULTER: The head of Iran is not a Christian.

DEUTSCH: No, but in fact, "Let's wipe Israel" --

COULTER: I don't know if you've been paying attention.

DEUTSCH: "Let's wipe Israel off the earth." I mean, what, no Jews?

COULTER: No, we think -- we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say.

DEUTSCH: Wow, you didn't really say that, did you?

COULTER: Yes. That is what Christianity is. We believe the Old Testament, but ours is more like Federal Express. You have to obey laws. We know we're all sinners --

DEUTSCH: In my old days, I would have argued -- when you say something absurd like that, there's no --

COULTER: What's absurd?

DEUTSCH: Jews are going to be perfected. I'm going to go off and try to perfect myself --

COULTER: Well, that's what the New Testament says.

DEUTSCH: Ann Coulter, author of If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans, and if Ann Coulter had any brains, she would not say Jews need to be perfected. I'm offended by that personally. And we'll have more Big Idea when we come back.

[...]

DEUTSCH: Welcome back to The Big Idea. During the break, Ann said she wanted to explain her last comment. So I'm going to give her a chance. So you don't think that was offensive?

COULTER: No. I'm sorry. It is not intended to be. I don't think you should take it that way, but that is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews. We believe the Old Testament. As you know from the Old Testament, God was constantly getting fed up with humans for not being able to, you know, live up to all the laws. What Christians believe -- this is just a statement of what the New Testament is -- is that that's why Christ came and died for our sins. Christians believe the Old Testament. You don't believe our testament.

DEUTSCH: You said -- your exact words were, "Jews need to be perfected." Those are the words out of your mouth.

COULTER: No, I'm saying that's what a Christian is.

DEUTSCH: But that's what you said -- don't you see how hateful, how anti-Semitic --

COULTER: No!

DEUTSCH: How do you not see? You're an educated woman. How do you not see that?

COULTER: That isn't hateful at all.

DEUTSCH: But that's even a scarier thought. OK --

COULTER: No, no, no, no, no. I don't want you being offended by this. This is what Christians consider themselves, because our testament is the continuation of your testament. You know that. So we think Jews go to heaven. I mean, [Rev. Jerry] Falwell himself said that, but you have to follow laws. Ours is "Christ died for our sins." We consider ourselves perfected Christians. For me to say that for you to become a Christian is to become a perfected Christian is not offensive at all.

DEUTSCH: We will let the audience decide then, won't we? Ann Coulter. New book. More Big Idea straight ahead.



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