Showing posts with label Conservatives. Show all posts
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Thursday, March 20, 2008

One Old Preacher Excercises His Constitutional Rights: The Flag Is Falling

I could come no where near putting it better that P.M. has in this opinion piece.

God, I don't know what's wrong with me, but I was blown back by the outrage after Obama's speech. I guess I keep hoping that the conservatives will be conservatives and not the frightened, bigoted, ideological, authoritarians that has taken over the Republican Party over the last 40 years, that seems to have reached its peak with the BuCheney administration. Why, oh why do I keep hoping? Maybe it is guys like Andrew Sullivan who is a true conservative and a very thoughtful man. I may not agree with Mr Sullivan on everything, but he does make sense and doesn't have seemingly programed, robotic, knee-jerk reactions to all things to the left of Attila the Hun. He is also not from here, but from England.

I have already expressed what I felt about Obama's speech; a speech that he shouldn't even have to have given. But he, unlike many of the rest of us, was wise enough, because of his life experience, to know that not only did the speech have to be given, but that he knew that the speech was not the end of anything, but the beginning of something new; honesty about race (and quite a few other issues, I feel sure) in this country.

The fact that the news media was in a typical feeding frenzy about the preacher thing while the anniversary of shock and awe passes, with protests blacked out, as usual, with out president and vice president sounding more sick and delusional by the day and their man for the next president having to be told that he had misspoke about al Qaeda and extremists, correcting himself and then misspeaking again just blows ones mind. I did see some discussions about the McCain thing and it looks like Dan Abrams is going to start a feature about old Teflon John. I guess it was such a gaff that ever Cabal news couldn't completely ignore it.

On Olbermann, McCain was described exactly as Bush is described, smart in his own way, but not a detail man.

Sweet Jesus, that's just all we need!

The guy doesn't know jack about economics and whomever the next president is, he or she will have to deal with some major crooks in the financial industry who have been up to serious no good and the fallout from their criminal shenanigans. My God, does any one trust McCain to do that? Only a fool!



The right's peculiar notion of proportionality lies in one of those intellectual sand traps that one can whack away at for years and yet never come close to dislodging its smug, half-buried target. The notion just sits there, grinning back, confident that logical blows will do it no harm or budge it one bit. It's one of the more stubborn obscenities known to man.

While, for instance, right-wing scribblers were succumbing to the vapors because of one over-the-top preacher's exercising of all three guarantees of the First Amendment, we were "celebrating" the fifth anniversary of an illegal, anticonstitutional, wholly unAmerican foreign war. This, however, merited no similar reactionary dread.

The disproportionality was stunningly obscene, as were its objects of timid affection.

You want obscene? Our -- their -- president offered that yesterday in spades when he insisted once again that "removing Saddam Hussein from power was the right decision," without noting once again its dreadfully wrongful costs in human and fiscal treasure.

Obscene? How about the vice president's considered response to ABC News' observation that two-thirds of his citizenry believe the war was never worth waging: "So?"

Obscene? How about about John McCain's latest Baghdad-Bob like pronouncement that we're on the jolly good "precipice of winning a major victory against radical Islamic extremism." Why, to hear you folks whine, one would think this marvelous little war against an amorphous ideology and its centuries-old tactics is dragging on with no end in sight.

Obscene? Pshaw. That -- wretched unAmericanism, presidential recalcitrance, vice-presidential debauchery and would-be presidential imbecility -- is but the stuff of negligible nothings.

Hence it gets a pass from our right-wing scribblers. They have bigger and far more ominous fish to fry; namely, that one, aforementioned preacher who once exercised his First Amendment guarantees in warning that God may indeed "damn" this country if it didn't stop acting more like Beelzebub than Jesus.

With tin foil molded properly on pate, with incense burning and adorned by a Cross, two Stars of David and several cloves of garlic, I journeyed yesterday to the Dark Side, just to take a confirmational peek at what the 15th-century minds of right-wing hysteria were likely saying. And sure enough, there it was, splattered all over the screen, in all its eerie irrelevance and screaming disproportionality.

One of this preacher's parishioners, you see -- I know, this is shocking, but be of strong heart, hale friend -- had heard the preacher's message in his parish and now seeks to convert its hate into love, its disunity into fellowship, its hopelessness into potential.

The Republic is doomed.

One of the distaff scribblers at Townhall, for example, wrote of the parishioner's speechifying: "Deflect, deflect, deflect.... He cannot disown Wright? Really? This rationale makes no sense to me." Thank you, dear lady, for affirming the clinically manifest.

But I quickly tired of Townhall's third-rate second-rateness so I scurried over to the more sophisticated banality of National Review -- where I found our good friend, the liberal-fascist-fighting Jonah Goldberg, sputtering in apoplectic regret that "Obamaniacs think conservatives just don't get it, that we're mired in the past, that we are motivated by old passions and bigotries." Like, uh, blindingly lily-white conservatism?

And there was Byron York, who perhaps you recall has made a living out of astonishingly proving that the liberal New York Times is liberal. Byron's latest insight was this: "What was surprising, for me, was the number of Obama supporters I spoke to afterward who not only thought the speech was great but also didn't see anything particularly wrong with the 'controversial' remarks of Rev. Jeremiah Wright." In other words, and quite unsurprising, disproportionality met proportionality and was utterly dumbfounded.

Yet let me be not too harsh, for there are thinking conservatives out there. And perhaps the most thoughtful is Andrew Sullivan, who wrote on his own site: "This searing, nuanced, gut-wrenching, loyal, and deeply, deeply Christian speech is the most honest speech on race in America in my adult lifetime.... I have never felt more convinced that this man's candidacy ... is an historic opportunity.... I love this country. I don't remember loving it or hoping more from it than today."

So see? The conservative bug isn't lethal to the conservative mind in every way and with every conservative. And given Mr. Sullivan's brand of it, I don't remember loving it or hoping more from it than yesterday.

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The Nazis, Fascists and Communists were political parties before they became enemies of liberty and mass murderers.

Tuesday, August 21, 2007

Bush: Headed For Historical Obliteration?

Obliteration? No

Contempt, hatred and loathing by the entire world, including a large and growing number of Americans? Hell Yeah!

Bush Losing Conservative Support, Faces "historical obliteration"

The Free Republic advertises itself as a forum for a "grassroots" conservative movement. As such, it has been the source for much odious GOP, conservative ideology and propaganda. These are folk who still believe Saddam planned 911, even though Bush himself blamed al Qaeda. But when contributors to Free Republic start using words like "historical obliteration", Bush's hard core should pay attention.

TheHill | July 11, 2007 | Dick Morris

Are they traitors or prophets, these Republicans who have jumped ship and called for Bush to begin pulling out of Iraq

Sens. George Voinovich (Ohio), Richard Lugar (Ind.), John Warner (Va.), and Pete Domenici (N.M.)? More likely the latter. A look at the political map and the electoral calendar tells us that GOP Sens. Arlen Specter (Pa.), Norm Coleman (Minn.), Olympia Snowe (Maine), Susan Collins (Maine), Chuck Hagel (Neb.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.) and Gordon Smith (Ore.) are probably not far behind them............."

If you haven’t been counting, that comes to 11 Republican defections —enough to force a vote even if the Dems lose Joe Lieberman (Conn.). A veto override? Add in the likes of marginal-state GOP senators like John Thune (S.D.), Kit Bond (Mo.), John Ensign (Nev.), Chuck Grassley (Iowa) and a handful of others and it’s possible. Retiring Sen. Wayne Allard (R-Colo.) might just do his party a favor on his way out.

The Republican senators are coming to realize that Bush needs to begin to pull out to save his party, even if it puts Iraq at risk. With the president’s favorability down to 29 percent in the USA Today poll, and 26 percent in Newsweek, the party leaders are coming to realize that they are not planning to join Bush in retirement — at least not yet — and that unless he begins the pullout, the GOP cannot hold on to the White House.

--Bush will have to pull out of Iraq, or face historical obliteration

And here --a soupcon of conservative disillusionment.
Bush is the biggest problem of all. He doesn’t look or sound like he’s in charge. The American people can sense a vacuum of leadership. I stuck up for Bush for many years on this, but my gut tells me there will be some juicy books written about this period that reveal how much influence Cheney had over this process.

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The tide has turned-big time. Ask the troops on the ground. There are marine units whose biggest problem now is boredom!...
Testy, are we?
I'm also worried about the next generation.

Yeah right. That's why you wanna hightail it out of the very place that Al Qaeda has identified as the central front in their war against us.
And the following I post with my refutations:
The long term ramifications for the World’s major powers are too great to just shove the Middle East aside. Oil is the life line of ours and their economies.
Therefore, we must suppose, it's OK to commit mass murder and steal the oil. More evidence in support of my thesis: "conservatism" is a mental illness. In theological terms: it is evil.
The War was never about winning but about prevention.
Indeed, it was. The "prevention" of peace.
Even if the Dems win they will have problems withdrawing from the Middle East.
Conservatives will then blame Democrats for Bush's war. Democrats, meanwhile, would be better off supporting the worldwide movement to bring Bush and his conservative co-conspirators to justice for war crimes.

The issue that you should look at is how the war is being fought. Up until now the war and the politics were handled very poorly. It appears that some real progress is being made.
Indeed, there has been "progress". The civilian "kill count" is over one million and counting. Conservatives call this "progress".
Bush has not really explained what is going on and how it affects our true interests( or a very poor job of it).
There is a rational explanation. The man who read "three Shakespeares"in one weekend cannot put two words together meaningfully.
Islam is a religion of the sword that could easily dominate the whole region- they have done it before so they believe they can do it again.
Nevermind that it is their region. If Islam is the religion of the sword, then Christianity must surely be the religion of the nuke. Is there a difference? Perhaps, the body count.
It sounds so cool to cut and run.
A contradiction in terms. Nothing said by a "conservative" sounds cool. Still --cutting and running is preferable to staying, stealing and murdering.
If America fails who will be there to pick up the pieces( China, Russia, India)?
America is falling and the pieces are being picked up as we write. Thanks to the conservative idiots who were suckered by Bush.

Here's a gem:
Our politicians pulled out of Viet Nam and Cambodia and didn’t have to answer for it because the horror was not in your face 24 hours a day.

When we pull out of Iraq, it will be.
The horror of it is in our faces 24 hours a day now! But, I suppose that not having horror in your face makes it OK but only if you are of the "conservative" persuasion. The bottom line: even when conservatives are ocassionally correct, it is for wrong and immoral reasons.

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The Nazis, Fascists and Communists were political parties before they became enemies of liberty and mass murderers.

Thursday, August 16, 2007

Why Are Conservatives Only Funny When They Are Being Serious

True Believer Partisans are never really all that funny, if you ask us.

Few Do.

Alas, we knew this day would come, but who could have predicted that it would come so soon?

In a development that should surprise absolutely no-one, Pox News’s “answer” to the Daily Show, the Half-Hour News Hour has been canceled. How tragic. How completely unexpected.

Apparently the ugly truth about conservatives only being funny when they’re trying to be serious has hit home with Fox, or maybe it was the abysmal ratings, but the network has wisely (for once) taken this particularly embarrassing misstep in their evil plan out behind the barn and put a bullet through its head.

I never even saw it. Did anybody actually see it? Or Michelle MalKKKin’s little project, “The Blog Report” or “Out There!” or whatever they were going to call it?

Don’t be upset. It was a mercy killing. (Tim Curry, “The Rocky Horror Picture Show”)



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